tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2646436324392506494.post9073002434554478000..comments2022-01-28T20:11:16.954-06:00Comments on The Reluctant Traditionalist: No Different Than Protestantism?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2646436324392506494.post-58080872496886708402009-08-23T17:02:20.324-05:002009-08-23T17:02:20.324-05:00Dissent is awful when it is against the clearly in...Dissent is awful when it is against the clearly infallible or against the inerrant of the Bible (like gay activity/Romans 1) but trenchant excessive affirmation (dissent's opposite) is just as bad and has produced numerous groups on the Catholic right who left the Church and often because they had overstated the authority level of certain issues...be they the eternal nature of the Latin Mass or the early 19th century papal opposition to freedom of conscience as pertains to governments supporting same.<br /><br /> Catholicism needs the right affirmations and the right dissents and Catholicism needed dissent historically in some areas and the dissent was absent to the degree that it was needed: e.g. the perpetual slavery license given by Pope Nicholas V to Portugal both in <i>Dum Diversas</i> 1452 and in <i>Romanus Pontifex</i> in 1454 (mid 4th paragraph) which was confirmed for Portugal by 3 succeeding Popes which led to Pope Paul III opposing all of them in 1537 in an anti slavery bull. The anti slavery bulls by Popes after him were repeatedly necessary because most Popes did not oppose slavery since the decretals as Aquinas noted supported perpetual slavery in the case of progeny of slave mothers (see Supplement to ST/marriage of a slave).<br /> What we needed besides the anti slavery Popes was the laity to dissent against the majority Catholic slave practice in Latin America.<br /> The Quaker clergy had the laity behind their earlier de facto banning of slavery and thus were out of it prior to we being out of it as per Brazil and Portugal (late out of it and both nominally Catholic).bill bannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737277581167437670noreply@blogger.com